Discussion:
Atheism -- The Ultimate Moral Copout
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Pastor Frank
2005-01-12 19:37:38 UTC
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(Well, this thread just showed up in alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,
and
is
cross posted to Hell and back, isn't it?)
- Is it possible be Morally Responsible without being a practitioner
of
any Religion?
Of course, provided one has any human decency. It is an evil person
who must be told it is bad to kill others.
Are you calling our soldiers "evil persons"? You are treading on
religious territory when talking about "human decency", "evil persons"
etc.
Human decency exists outside the realm of, and manay times in SPPITE of,
religion, moron!
You call our soldiers "evil persons" or support those who say so,
but call me "moron" instead of yourelf. Also, you again mis-post your flames
to the wrong NGs. i will post you over to some flame groups who love to have
you.
Pastor Frank
2005-01-29 08:59:54 UTC
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:01:07 +0800, "Pastor Frank"
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:00:52 +0800, "Pastor Frank"
doing the opposite from what Christ would do. Only perceptually and
philosophically challenged atheists can't tell the difference.
And do you think these Minions who profess Christ KNOW they are
working for Satan?
Of course they don't! You can ask ANY of them and they'll ALL tell
you that they are doing The Lord's Work.
That they do, no doubt and that's why they are Satan's minions. But
you
can easily check them out yourself. First get to know Jesus. A red letter
What
Would Jesus Do? If the person does something Jesus would not do and
justifies such action, then you know you are dealing with one of Satan's
minions.
Jesus says that Christians should not suffer a witch to live... That
is, Christians should kill witches.
Where does Jesus say that? I think you are just making things up as you
go expressing your hate for Christ and His Christians. You should post to
atheist and flame groups. I will post you over to a selection which might be
to your liking.
Mark K. Bilbo
2005-01-30 13:25:04 UTC
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In our last episode
Post by Pastor Frank
Where does Jesus say that? I think you are just making things up as you
go expressing your hate for Christ and His Christians. You should post to
atheist and flame groups. I will post you over to a selection which might
be to your liking.
You mean you'll do massive, inappropriate cross posting in an attempt to
start yet another flame war...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
unknown
2005-01-30 16:53:58 UTC
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Post by Mark K. Bilbo
In our last episode
Post by Pastor Frank
Where does Jesus say that? I think you are just making things up as you
go expressing your hate for Christ and His Christians. You should post to
atheist and flame groups. I will post you over to a selection which might
be to your liking.
You mean you'll do massive, inappropriate cross posting in an attempt to
start yet another flame war...
That's how it reads to me. While some Satanists believe in a deity or force
(or "farce" as I like to call it), many do not or they "worship" themselves
as an ersatz god (still reads as Atheism in my book).

While we have debated the point from time-to-time (sometimes vigorously) in
alt.satanism, most of the time the threads aren't crossposted to other
uninterested newsgroups -- except by nutters that have an inordinate need
for attention. Likewise, I don't think most of the regular posters care much
about the theological leanings of one self-described Satanist or another
unless they're trying to sell something.

You'd think that Pastor Frank would just spend his time in hotel rooms
"ministering" to hookers like Rev. Swaggart and not wasting his time in
alt.satanism. In fact, if he does I'll gladly send him a six pack of
Thunderbird, a couple of joints, some Lube, and a copy of Song of Solomon
signed by Jehovah in the blood of Jesus.

Regards,

Harry Lime
www.harrylime.biz
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
Mark K. Bilbo
2005-01-30 17:59:32 UTC
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Post by unknown
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
In our last episode
Post by Pastor Frank
Where does Jesus say that? I think you are just making things up as you
go expressing your hate for Christ and His Christians. You should post
to atheist and flame groups. I will post you over to a selection which
might be to your liking.
You mean you'll do massive, inappropriate cross posting in an attempt to
start yet another flame war...
That's how it reads to me.
Only because it is. <g>

"Pastor" Frank is a troll with a history that spans several years. I
believe he was trolling alt.atheism before I arrived and I've been around
the ng almost seven years now. He's been doing this kind of thing for ages
now. His latest tactics of the quite nutty "I'll post you over" (whatever
the hell that's supposed to mean) seem to have arisen because he blames
"atheists" for his interesting need to frequently switch Usenet providers.
Post by unknown
While some Satanists believe in a deity or
force (or "farce" as I like to call it), many do not or they "worship"
themselves as an ersatz god (still reads as Atheism in my book).
Well, you have to keep in mind that Frank has his own "dictionary." In his
curious little mind, "atheist" means "anybody who disagrees with Frank."
I'm sure "Satanist" has just as personal (and incoherent) definition for
him. Probably "people who disagree with Frank." <g>

His use of "worship" seems to indicate something so broad and watered
down, stamp collecting probably qualifies. So if you spend more than five
minutes thinking about something, well, there you go!
Post by unknown
While we have debated the point from time-to-time (sometimes vigorously)
in alt.satanism, most of the time the threads aren't crossposted to other
uninterested newsgroups --
I can say in my own experience, we just don't get evangelizing Satanists
showing up in alt.atheism.
Post by unknown
except by nutters that have an inordinate need
for attention. Likewise, I don't think most of the regular posters care
much about the theological leanings of one self-described Satanist or
another unless they're trying to sell something.
You'd think that Pastor Frank would just spend his time in hotel rooms
"ministering" to hookers like Rev. Swaggart and not wasting his time in
alt.satanism. In fact, if he does I'll gladly send him a six pack of
Thunderbird, a couple of joints, some Lube, and a copy of Song of Solomon
signed by Jehovah in the blood of Jesus.
Actually, he'd probably be a much happier person if he just went back to
gardening.

Years ago I went Googling around to see what I could find. Frank is
apparently some old, retired coot who used to post to gardening ngs.
Started showing up in "philosophy" ngs and eventually religious ones.
Appointed himself a "missionary" to atheists. As time wore on, he ordained
himself and became increasing... different.

It's a, well, an indicative progression in someone of "advanced years" I'm
sad to say...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
unknown
2005-01-30 18:19:43 UTC
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Dear Mark:

Please see inside text:
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I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming
feature.....Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the
introduction of Christianity, have been burned, tortured, fined and
imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make half the
world fools and half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the
world. Thomas Jefferson
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Post by unknown
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
In our last episode
Post by Pastor Frank
Where does Jesus say that? I think you are just making things up as you
go expressing your hate for Christ and His Christians. You should post
to atheist and flame groups. I will post you over to a selection which
might be to your liking.
You mean you'll do massive, inappropriate cross posting in an attempt to
start yet another flame war...
That's how it reads to me.
Only because it is. <g>
"Pastor" Frank is a troll with a history that spans several years. I
believe he was trolling alt.atheism before I arrived and I've been around
the ng almost seven years now. He's been doing this kind of thing for ages
now. His latest tactics of the quite nutty "I'll post you over" (whatever
the hell that's supposed to mean) seem to have arisen because he blames
"atheists" for his interesting need to frequently switch Usenet providers.
Well maybe some Atheists have complained about his bad behavior and gotten
his account yanked. This is understandable as there have been several fundy
Christers who used to disgrace alt.satanism with their special blend of
"Jesus loves you, but he's sending you to hell" crapola. We used to get a
lot of racist asswipes as well. Believe me, we have enough kooks there to
keep use entertained and don't need the additional input from the Christian
crowd.
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Post by unknown
While some Satanists believe in a deity or
force (or "farce" as I like to call it), many do not or they "worship"
themselves as an ersatz god (still reads as Atheism in my book).
Well, you have to keep in mind that Frank has his own "dictionary." In his
curious little mind, "atheist" means "anybody who disagrees with Frank."
I'm sure "Satanist" has just as personal (and incoherent) definition for
him. Probably "people who disagree with Frank." <g>
Since I've plonked him I guess I'll never know. LOL.
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
His use of "worship" seems to indicate something so broad and watered
down, stamp collecting probably qualifies. So if you spend more than five
minutes thinking about something, well, there you go!
Since I do my best thinking on the john, I'll make sure and worship under
the tutelage of Pastor Frank next time I take a healthy dump.
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Post by unknown
While we have debated the point from time-to-time (sometimes vigorously)
in alt.satanism, most of the time the threads aren't crossposted to other
uninterested newsgroups --
I can say in my own experience, we just don't get evangelizing Satanists
showing up in alt.atheism.
Oh we do have a couple. Hope that the crosspost didn't open up a virtual
Pandora's Box. These charlatan's are pretty easily spotted by those who
have more than a high school education.
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Post by unknown
except by nutters that have an inordinate need
for attention. Likewise, I don't think most of the regular posters care
much about the theological leanings of one self-described Satanist or
another unless they're trying to sell something.
You'd think that Pastor Frank would just spend his time in hotel rooms
"ministering" to hookers like Rev. Swaggart and not wasting his time in
alt.satanism. In fact, if he does I'll gladly send him a six pack of
Thunderbird, a couple of joints, some Lube, and a copy of Song of Solomon
signed by Jehovah in the blood of Jesus.
Actually, he'd probably be a much happier person if he just went back to
gardening.
Too bad he doesn't want to discuss gardening sans the religious dogma. I'm a
bit of a hobbyist myself.
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Years ago I went Googling around to see what I could find. Frank is
apparently some old, retired coot who used to post to gardening ngs.
Started showing up in "philosophy" ngs and eventually religious ones.
Appointed himself a "missionary" to atheists. As time wore on, he ordained
himself and became increasing... different.
It's a, well, an indicative progression in someone of "advanced years" I'm
sad to say...
Or the need for an ongoing regimen of Aricept.

Regards,

Harry Lime
www.harrylime.biz
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
Kasper
2005-02-04 12:18:21 UTC
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Poland is a stupid country becouse poland is weak in football match.
Post by Pastor Frank
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:01:07 +0800, "Pastor Frank"
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:00:52 +0800, "Pastor Frank"
doing the opposite from what Christ would do. Only perceptually and
philosophically challenged atheists can't tell the difference.
And do you think these Minions who profess Christ KNOW they are
working for Satan?
Of course they don't! You can ask ANY of them and they'll ALL tell
you that they are doing The Lord's Work.
That they do, no doubt and that's why they are Satan's minions. But
you
can easily check them out yourself. First get to know Jesus. A red letter
What
Would Jesus Do? If the person does something Jesus would not do and
justifies such action, then you know you are dealing with one of Satan's
minions.
Jesus says that Christians should not suffer a witch to live... That
is, Christians should kill witches.
Where does Jesus say that? I think you are just making things up as you
go expressing your hate for Christ and His Christians. You should post to
atheist and flame groups. I will post you over to a selection which might be
to your liking.
Arthur Mullard
2005-02-05 11:42:55 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:01:07 +0800, "Pastor Frank"
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:00:52 +0800, "Pastor Frank"
doing the opposite from what Christ would do. Only perceptually and
philosophically challenged atheists can't tell the difference.
And do you think these Minions who profess Christ KNOW they are
working for Satan?
Of course they don't! You can ask ANY of them and they'll ALL tell
you that they are doing The Lord's Work.
That they do, no doubt and that's why they are Satan's minions. But
you
can easily check them out yourself. First get to know Jesus. A red letter
What
Would Jesus Do? If the person does something Jesus would not do and
justifies such action, then you know you are dealing with one of Satan's
minions.
Jesus says that Christians should not suffer a witch to live... That
is, Christians should kill witches.
Where does Jesus say that? I think you are just making things up as you
go expressing your hate for Christ and His Christians. You should post to
atheist and flame groups. I will post you over to a selection which might be
to your liking.
It was from Exodus. All religious intolerance leads to conflict. Go figure.
Arthur Mullard
2005-02-05 11:44:26 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
(Well, this thread just showed up in alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,
and
is
cross posted to Hell and back, isn't it?)
- Is it possible be Morally Responsible without being a practitioner
of
any Religion?
Of course, provided one has any human decency. It is an evil person
who must be told it is bad to kill others.
Are you calling our soldiers "evil persons"? You are treading on
religious territory when talking about "human decency", "evil persons"
etc.
Human decency exists outside the realm of, and manay times in SPPITE of,
religion, moron!
You call our soldiers "evil persons" or support those who say so,
but call me "moron" instead of yourelf. Also, you again mis-post your flames
to the wrong NGs. i will post you over to some flame groups who love to have
you.
You're a bit of a control freak aren't you Frank. Have you thought of
getting therapy.

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